Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave ………

“Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive” ……. A quote from Sir Walter Scott .

At present I can’t help but wonder what is going on within the Cleveland Browns’ (1-7) organization. As sorry a team within the NFL you may not be able find in the entire league. Well , perhaps with the exception of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (0-7) , St Louis Rams (1-7) , Detroit Lions (1-6), Kansas City Chiefs (1-6) and the horrendous Oakland Raiders (2-6). And can someone tell me when was the last time that you can remember seeing so many bad teams within the NFL all playing this atrociously , all at the same time ? It seem inconceivable that things could be this bad ! But as of now they are and there appears to be no end to this madness in sight.

ESPN‘s Adam Schefter talks about the Browns’ recent woes on the cable network’s televised program ‘Right Now’. The Cleveland Browns has a bye this weekend before they return to the field in Week 10 for a Monday night game (16th November) against the Baltimore Ravens at home at Cleveland Browns Stadium , Cleveland , Ohio. (Scheduled time 8:30 pm ET – ESPN)

In the midst of this all is Browns’ owner Randy Lerner. In bringing in coach , Eric Mangini to take over from the fired predecessor Romeo Crennel. This team now seems to be no further along in its progression to being a competent and competitive NFL franchise. If anything, the team has taken a backward’s step and regressed under Mangini, entirely. And it certainly didn’t help that Lerner acquiesced to Mangini’s demand that he be the one to make his own choice as to who the team’s General Manager should be. If ever there was a recipe for disaster , then this was it ! Mangini’s choice was close personal friend , George Kokinis.
Of limited experience with regard to the assessment and development player personnel. It was hard to see how this maneuver would be of benefit to the Browns’ organization. If nothing else, it smacked of sheer impetuousness. And one where the maneuver may well have been done as a favor to Kokinis. The decision if anything, was completely irrational and without much justification.

Browns' owner   Randy  Lerner (right)  seen  here  with the  team's  coach  Eric  Mangini   at  the  team's  training  facility  in  Berea , Ohio.  Lerner  voiced  his   disgust  at  the  team's  woes  and  errant  play. He  has  refused  to  speculate  or  comment  on the   future  of  Mangini   at  the  present  time.  picture appears courtesy  of ap/photo/ Tony  Dejak  ..................

Brown’s owner Randy Lerner (right) seen here with the team’s coach Eric Mangini at the team’s training facility in Berea ,Ohio. Lerner voiced his disgust at the team’s woes and errant play. He has refused to speculate or comment on the future of Mangini at the present time. picture appears courtesy of ap/photo/ Tony Dejak …..

Now with the and organization in turmoil, Kokinis has been relinquished of his duties as general manager and abruptly fired. Mangini for his part must now be looking like a fool ! His own position within the organization has to be under review by the owner. Simply put, this former assistant under Bill Belichick is clearly a bust as a coach within the NFL ! Mangini clearly can’t communicate with his players, nor does he appear to command their respect or attention. Proof of that can be seen with his all but brief tenure with the New York Jets as their head coach. Even with Brett Favre in tow , the Jets were simply just another team without much guidance or leadership. That same situation is now being replicated in Cleveland , much to the dismay of their legion of loyal and devoted fans. Kokinis may have been shown the door but the thinking must now be that Mangini can’t be far behind.

George Kokinis    the now former    Cleveland  Browns' General Manager.  Kokinis  was  relinquished  of  his  duties   and   abruptly fired.   Mangini  was  said   to  be  visibly  shaken  and  completely  surprised at the   turn  of events  that  suddenly  took  place.        picture  appears  courtesy  of  ap/photo/   Tony  Marshall   ....................

George Kokinis the now former Browns’ General Manager. Kokinis was relinquished of his duties and abruptly fired by the organization. Mangini was said to be visibly shaken and completely surprised at the turn of events that took place. picture appears courtesy of ap/photo/ Tony Marshall ……………

At (1-7) and sitting afoot of the AFC North in what is turning to be a highly contested and competitive division . The Cleveland Browns’ season is for all sense and purpose essentially over. They’ll now be playing pride and a sense of honor. Most certainly there are a number of players on this Browns’ roster that will not be returning to the team next season. Either for financial reasons or from the mere fact that they’ve not been productive enough. Looking up at teams within their division such as the Baltimore Ravens (4-3) , Pittsburgh Steelers (5-2) and the surprise leaders of the division, in the Cincinnati Bengals (5-2). Player on the team have to show the fans that they’ve still got the heart and passion to play with pride. And if Mangini can’t instill that into this team, then Randy Lerner has no other option but to fire him !

Chicago Bears' defensive end  Mark  Anderson puts pressure  on  Browns'  quarterback  Derek  Anderson   in an  NFL  game  played   at   Soldier Field  in  Chicago  , Illinois.   The  Bears   would   go  on  to  defeat   the  Browns   30-6   in a  lopsided  game.     picture appears  courtesy  of  ap/photo/  Nam Y  Huh  ..................

Chicago Bears’ defensive end Mark Anderson puts pressure on Cleveland Browns’ quarterback Derek Anderson in an NFL game played at Soldier Field in Chicago , Illinois. The Bears would go on to defeat the Browns 30-6 in a thoroughly lopsided game. picture appears courtesy of ap/photo/ Nam Y. Huh ………………..

Looking down the Cleveland Browns’ roster , one can’t help but notice the obvious that it is short on talent , leadership and players with play-making abilities. But for the exception of Josh Cribbs , Mohamed Massaquoi and Brian Robiskie . There’s not really much that one could portend to say that the team can be competitive within the NFL. There’s no vocal or emotional leader on the team and their duo of quarterbacks in the guise of Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson are about as intimidating as Clay Aiken dressed up in athletic gear ! Now there’s a picture that could paint way more than a thousand words !

The Cleveland Browns as a team can’t help but shoot themselves in the foot , each time they take to the field for a game. They look ill prepared , lacking in confidence and in large part intimidated by their opponents, whomever they maybe. Add to the fact that on either side of the ball , their play has been completely inept and devoid of creativity ! And with all this talk of the ‘ wildcat offense’ . I’d sincerely doubt that with this team adopting that as a part of their playbook we would actually see a vast improvement in their form. Remember this is a team where a quarterback was only able to compete two pass in seventeen attempts over an entire NFL game. If that isn’t an indication as how monstrously awful this team actually is. Then I for one can’t say much else besides than the …. ‘Cleveland Browns suck and they suck awfully bad ! So there you have it may take on the Browns and the ineptitude they’ve shown so far this season. Like I’ve already alluded to earlier. Could you ever have imagined that there would so many god-damn awful teams in the NFL all playing so badly on such a consistent basis ,week in , week out ? I couldn’t have !

Courtesy of NFL.com and Associated Press :

Browns coach Mangini remains quiet about Kokinis’ departure

Associated Press

BEREA, Ohio — The convoluted ouster of George Kokinis as Cleveland’s general manager barely made a ripple in the Browns’ locker room.

These guys are accustomed to losses.

Pro Bowl tackle Joe Thomas hardly knew Kokinis, who was hired in January and left the club under unexplained circumstances on Monday.

“He wasn’t around too much, and when he was, he was pretty quiet,” Thomas said.

Everyone inside team headquarters at 76 Lou Groza Blvd. was pretty quiet on Tuesday. The Browns, who have a bye this week, went about their business as rumors swirled about Kokinis, the events that led up to his departure and who — or if — anyone will replace him.

Browns coach Eric Mangini offered no details about the team’s decision to move on without his longtime friend and hand-picked GM.

“Anytime a decision like this is made it is difficult personally and professionally,” Mangini said. “George is a friend of mine and I respect him and I wish his family well. I can tell you that for a variety of reasons things didn’t work out. You never go into a situation like this with the intention of it not working out.

“We felt that, organizationally, this was the best decision in order to move forward.”

That was about as deep as Mangini would venture into the Kokinis matter. Mangini spent most of his news conference politely deflecting questions about why the decision was made.

He was asked if there were legal reasons why he couldn’t address Kokinis’ exit.

“There’s really a variety of reasons,” he said, “and I’ll just leave it at that.”

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AFC North Standings :

AFC North Team W L T Pct PF PA Net Pts TD Home Road Div Pct Conf Pct Non-Conf Streak Last 5
Cincinnati Bengals 5 2 0 .714 163 128 35 21 2-2 3-0 3-0 1.000 3-2 .600 2-0 1W 4-1
Pittsburgh Steelers 5 2 0 .714 167 129 38 20 4-0 1-2 1-1 .500 3-1 .750 2-1 4W 4-1
Baltimore Ravens 4 3 0 .571 199 137 62 25 3-1 1-2 1-1 .500 4-2 .667 0-1 1W 2-3
Cleveland Browns 1 7 0 .125 78 209 -131 7 0-3 1-4 0-3 .000 1-4 .200 0-3 3L 1-4

Cleveland Browns’ roster in part – click on link below to view in its entirety.

Cleveland Browns
No Name Pos Status Height Weight Birthdate Exp College
20 Adams, Mike CB ACT 5’11” 200 3/24/1981 6 Delaware
3 Anderson, Derek QB ACT 6’6″ 230 6/15/1983 5 Oregon State
50 Barton, Eric ILB ACT 6’3″ 245 9/29/1977 11 Maryland
96 Bowens, David OLB ACT 6’3″ 265 7/3/1977 11 Western Illinois
90 Coleman, Kenyon DE ACT 6’5″ 295 4/10/1979 8 UCLA
54 Costanzo, Blake LB ACT 6’1″ 235 4/14/1984 3 Lafayette
16 Cribbs, Josh WR ACT 6’1″ 215 6/9/1983 5 Kent State
28 Davis, James RB RES 5’11” 218 1/1/1986 0 Clemson
4 Dawson, Phil K ACT 5’11” 200 1/23/1975 11 Texas
26 Elam, Abram SS ACT 6’0″ 207 10/15/1981 4 Kent State
83 Estandia, Greg TE ACT 6’8″ 265 11/18/1982 3 Nevada-Las Vegas
66 Fraley, Hank G ACT 6’3″ 310 9/21/1977 10 Robert Morris

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Author: tophatal ...........

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4 thoughts on “Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave ………”

  1. It’s scary how bad this team is. They seem to regress each week, and don’t even show any competitiveness any week. At least my Raiders will keep every third or fourth game close, but they can’t even do that! How about those Bucs so far today! They’re actually making plays. I don’t think they’ll pull out the upset, but at least they’re playing!


  2. chappy 81

    I’m happy to admit when I’m wrong and in the case of the Bucs today I was definitely wrong. They brought the whole house and kitchen sink to the game and threw everything at the Packers. The offensive line of the Packers was woefully inept. They could not protect Aaron Rogers at all .

    Now we’re left with no unbeaten teams in the league but still a hell of a lot of bad ones all the same. And that if anything, isn’t a good sign for the NFL.

    As to Mangini and the Cleveland Browns , this was a situation of their own making. And it boils down to the naivete shown by the Browns’ owner Randy Lerner. It was stupid of him to have Mangini, have his own hand picked GM. Mangini has no credibility at all in the NFL. Nor does he have a body of work to be judged by. Much of his success in New England stems from his work alongside Belichick and being a studious learner under his tutelage. Unfortunately he’s brought absolutely nothing to the table , either with the Jets or Browns.

    It would be best after the season is over if the Browns sent him packing as they’re not liable to improve at all. They have struggled in every facet of the game , from top to bottom. And it’s sad that the Browns’ fan should have to put up with the sheer ineptitude shown by Cleveland Browns’ team.

    Alan Parkins


    1. Meehan

      The only turnaround comes with meticulous planting and that’s it . From thereonin it’s down to the coaches and payers once it’s all sad and done.

      Oh how I’d like to suck on those mammaries !

      The reason why Mad Men is one of the “best shows” on tv ………”hot women ” !


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